Thursday, April 24, 2008

Christians Must Renounce Heresy


As the battle between Hyper-Preterism and Orthodox Christianity continues, we have to pause for a moment and ask ourselves, what are the issues at stake? Is all this strife and division simply a matter of maintaining credit in the eyes of men? --or is there something greater to be gained, which we now overlook? I think the answer is apparent to anyone who has truly learned to "take up his cross" and follow Jesus Christ (Matt. 16: 24).

To take up one's cross does not mean merely to deny pleasures to oneself. In this world there are many things for which men battle and strive daily, and without which they will not do. These fading goods are not at all needful, but have their reference to this life alone. Wealth, social status, and a reputation in the eyes of men, sometimes prevent us from following Christ, and keep us in the land of idolatry from which Abraham was commanded to depart (Gen. 12: 1).

Truly, the elect of God are called to deny themselves a great deal of what most men consider "essential." And this is an important start in learning to follow the Good Shepherd. But that is not primarily what Christ was talking about when He said that we must "take up our crosses." He is teaching that mere renunciation of worldly cares & concerns is not enough. After all, that is just the baggage of life. Our Lord declares that there must be a dying unto self.

What does this imply? Well, it means that we must follow Jesus Christ to Calvary, irrespective of our own personal agendas. Of course, let no one say that we all must partake of His crucifixion, or any kind of martyrdom. While that may be the case, it isn't always necessary. What is necessary, however, is that we stop going in our own directions, and put the cross upon our shoulders. Then, we may follow the footsteps of the Master.

This is what the false teachers of the world have never been able to understand. They think that in bearing their own gospels they are successfully serving Jesus. But they are all deceived. For there is only one Gospel, which "endureth for ever" (1 Peter 1: 25). This is the same message that Jesus Christ and His inspired apostles preached. Anyone who therefore preaches a new gospel is under the curse (Gal. 1: 8, 9).

Now, Hyper-Preterism's "new" Gospel has only been around since 1845. Therefore, it is accursed. When first taught by Robert Townley, churchmen called it the "vilest heresy that ever appeared in Christendom." It's no wonder, then, that it failed to gain any adherents, and remained buried in obscurity for over a hundred years. But it was revived again in 1971, as the Charlie Manson-era's new "take" on Christ's message.

It is the product of men, not of God. Those who preach and follow this new gospel have forgotten what it means to take up the Cross and follow Jesus. Perhaps its main proponents have never truly known what cross-bearing is about. For Hyper-Preterism was invented to maintain the personal agendas of heretics. Like all heresies, Hyper-Preterism does not support the interests of Christianity. It only showers honor upon its teachers, giving them a show of wisdom, whereby they may continue to call themselves the ministers of Christ.

But "such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore, it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works" (2 Cor. 11: 13-15).

What can we gain from this? Someone who preaches a false gospel is not following Christ. Therefore, he has no part in Christ. Will it pay in the long-run? Friends, don't be deceived. Except you take up the cross and follow Christ, you cannot be His disciple (Luke 14: 27). Paul explicitly declares that the deceitful workers will have "an end according to their works."

Are you really sure that by teaching a "new" Gospel you are truly following Christ? And if so, then what is the status of those who believed the Christian message of 1,900 years? It is clear than one party must be right, and the other wrong. Which one will it be? Your answer will reveal which master you serve.

Why not drop these lies and return to the truth? If any man invent a new gospel, he is accursed. There is no such thing as a new Christianity. There is no need for one. There is only one true Gospel. Renounce these delusions, and embrace the truth once more. Lay down your arms, and listen to Jesus. Obey the inward call. Instead of following ravenous wolves, follow the Good Shepherd. For He alone leads the way to eternal life.

11 comments:

Abba Z said...

You my friend need a truth check. Preterist Theology is much alive.
The deal is that Preterists are a meek and humble bunch that avoid conflict and arguing over words. In my tracking the preterist posts the "hate preterists" people are ahead in publishing about 14 to 1. You people must really be scared of preterism. The one thing that all the anti-preterist divisionists posts have in common is that you guys simply not talk Scripture. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Try to refute the over 35 very explicit time statements that clearly show the imminent return was predicted then. I have never seen any anti-preterist refute them without looking like a complete idiot.

Christ is ruling earth NOW. In fact if Christ is God he has always been ruling earth. If Christ is not present when two or more are gathered in his name then he is a liar. Jesus Christ promised to come and live in us if we believe in him. If that is not the "this same Jesus" then who is it?? If you deny that Jesus Christ is not present in this age sitting on the throne of God then you simply do not know Him. That must be why you are so filled with hate.

Cocceius2Grotius said...

"I have never seen any anti-preterist refute them without looking like a complete idiot."

I offer my latest website for your review:

http://www.hyperpreteristarchive.com

In that place, I show how Matthew 10:23, 16:27-28 and 26:64 are not "time texts" pointing to AD70.

Fact is, as former preterists, we are very aware of how many of our beliefs were based upon assumptions and presuppositions (such as what the "son of man coming in power" means). Perhaps you are too fresh in the view to be able to see the large amount of assumptions which knit together the view, but some day (lord willing) you will.

Thanks for the site Brian.

Brian Simmons said...

Abba,

Answer me one question.. if you dare. Is Christ still sitting at thre right hand of the Father??

Brian

Abba Z said...

Cocceius
You are a perfect example of what I am speaking of. A question is asked in Matthew 24:1 and Jesus finishes and Matthew finish it in Matthew 26:1. The Text itself does not even suggest that Christ is talking about an event thousands of years later.

Then to suggest that Mat 26:64 is speaking to people thousands of years later is a perfect example of what I am talking about.

If Jesus was really speaking to future generations then he was lying to the very people he was speaking to. That fact alone makes the verse a time statement and is in perfect harmony with Matthew 24.

Abba Z said...

If Christ is still flesh and blood I imagine he has to get up occasionally to relieve himself, so technically He is not always even sitting.

Maybe God woke up one day and thought "I'm just beside myself today"

It's finished Brian, the lamb has destoyed death for all that are His.

Brian Simmons said...

Abba,

Please listen to yourself as you blaspheme the Son of God. You need prayer more than anything, and a return to "sound doctrine."

Brian

Abba Z said...

Is that your argument? "I should listen to myself"? Of course you would want to avoid this issue and change the issue to me.

Your question sounds like Thomas in John 14:5. 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really knew me, you would know a my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
The Holy Bible : New International Version. 1996, c1984 . Zondervan: Grand Rapids

Brian, do you know where Jesus went?? He is now God in heaven. God is not sitting beside himself.

Do you understand that there is only One God???? You my friend are are the one that blasphemes God by denying his present rule here now.

Brian Simmons said...

Abba,

These posts are saddening. There is only one true faith, which teaches that Jesus Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father, and shall come to judge the quick and the dead. If you do not believe this faith you cannot be saved. You must renounce the wisdom of this world and become a little child again. Believe the Gospel in its simple purity. Accept Jesus into your heart, and you will be healed.
I will continue to pray for you.

Brian

Abba Z said...

Hello Brian

I don't know what kind of Preterist you think you might have been but the end of the old covenant world was "THE END". The New Covenant world will never end.

1 Cor. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

Christ sat at the right hand of the father until the world was judged then he has handed the kingdom to the father. If you find fault in that I believe God is ruling this earth now I am sorry.

Somehow you anti-preterist fail to understand that Jesus is God. God is here and available to all that want Him. Jesus said "where two or more are gathered I am there with them. Jesus said that He and the father would come and make their home in the believers by his spirit. The Holy spirit is God.

I understand why you would deny the presence of God in this world because you love to sin thinking God is not here.

It is really hard to sin when you know for sure that Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit are actually present here now.

You do not make sense when you say I need to accept Jesus into my heart but he is not present. How do you accept someone that is not here???

No need to wory about us heretic Preterist we are living like he has returned because he has returned. The Good Shepherd has not abandoned the flock and shame on you for teaching that Jesus is not present.

Brian Simmons said...

Abba,

You do grealy err, not knowing the Scriptures. If Christ returned in A.D. 70, there would be no more sin, for He would already have left the Holy Place, and completing His priestly function. You need to cease these delusions and get back to "sound doctrine." Jesus is just as much on His throne in heaven as He is on earth. But who ever "saw" Jesus CHrist on earth? Remember, Christ's "appearing" does not mean He is 'invisible.' Your doctrines are nonsense, and only demontsrate how deluded you've become. Yep. Satan is still active, folks.

Brian

Abba Z said...

In Gods presence there is no sin and Satan is history. "No Sin" means the sinful angels are kicked out of heaven and Christ has paid the price for mans sin and transformed man can now enter the Kingdom of Heaven in that spiritual realm as we are Resurrected (transformed in the twinkling of the eye) at our death.

Christ told the disciples that He was going to the Father to prepare a place for them so they could be with him, In heaven. I think it is very reasonable to think that Christ came back to get them. Why else would He tell them that was coming back for them?? Oh... I get it;;; it was a secret message to you, thousands of years later. Obviously the text itself has no meaning to you other than your house of cards made of traditional presuppositions.

What need would Christ have to rule earth with an IRON scepter if there was no sin?

This is the central issue with preterism. We believe Heaven is in Heaven and non-preterists believe heaven is here on earth. How about this? Is your credo "When we die we go to earth"?

The idea that heaven is on earth is a liberal consrtuct indeed. It neatly puts spirituality in a box under Gods thrown and has flesh and blood ruling heaven.